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Ten years ago, a friend of my father
gave me a present.

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A collection of rolls of super-8
with pictures of Sete Quedas,

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a string of waterfalls
on the Brazil/Paraguay border.

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On the twentieth
of October 1978,

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at the height of the civil-military
dictatorship in Brazil,

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58 tons of dynamite
blasted the Paraná River,

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changing its course forever.

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As the water level rose,
Sete Quedas disappeared,

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flooded to make way for
the world’s largest hydroelectric power plant,

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Itaipu.

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BUILDING BRIDGES

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Sete Quedas is still
down there.

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In Guarani,
an indigenous language,

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ITAIPU breaks down into "itá", stone,
"y", water, and "pu", roar.

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Watching those rolls of Super-8

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revealed to me images from my childhood
and of all that had since been lost

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to me, to my family
and to my country.

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The drowning of Sete Quedas
and my submerged memories,

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made me go looking
for my father,

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an engineer who was not involved in
building Itaipu, but could have been.

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So dad, the idea is

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to have the projection with pauses
to talk about it.

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What I really want
is to listen to your stories.

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I'll pause when
you have something to say.

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You can talk about things
as you remember them.

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My life as an engineer began
on this kind of construction.

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Back when the company
was still very small.

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They were doing the second lane, see?

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Did you do this one too?

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I built a road over this mountain,
I even lived there.

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Where?

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I lived in one of these small houses
by the overpass.

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The highest authorities welcomed
President Artur da Costa e Silva

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at the Paranaguá airport,
in the state of Paraná.

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The supreme chief's presence
in the main city of the state's coast

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is historical.

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Paranaguá had never been visited
by a president before.

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After cutting
the inaugural ribbon,

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the President and the authorities
drive up the newly paved modern highway

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all the way to Curitiba.

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I feel that in my life
as an engineer,

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it was only during
the revolutionary period

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that we had a plan
for this country.

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Now we don't.

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Back then,
the regime had this mindset.

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A nation-building vision.

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After 78 years on this planet, you think
this country only had a national vision

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that really worked
during the military regime?

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Yes!

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I think that whole period

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was the only one I know in history
where there was an actual plan,

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with lots of construction work;

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when Brazil was really governed
in a productive way.

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Here,
take a look in this notebook.

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Here we have the five biggest
abandoned construction projects

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from all Brazilian governments,
including the military regime.

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-Why does this happen?
-Go ahead, tell me why.

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Well, it’s clearly for the want
of a good plan for the country.

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A plan that treats
this kind of construction as a priority

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and carries it through.

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Do you know what’s expensive?
Unfinished work.

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Of course!

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Like this, it connects
nowhere to no place at all.

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It makes no sense.
No one benefits from it.

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Except those who worked on it.

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The movie is beautiful,
right, Helo?

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-Oh yes, really beautiful!
-Were you happy with it?

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Is it for the big screen?

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Yes. This test screening
was only to approve the copy.

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Do you want some whisky, dad?

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I poured myself one already,
you took so long to arrive.

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When I was 22, my father and I
had a horrible falling-out.

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He didn’t know what to do with me,
nor I with him.

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And the only way out I could find
was to leave my hometown

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and move to São Paulo.

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The Itaipu Hydroelectric Plant lights up
parts of Curitiba and São Paulo.

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If the plant didn’t exist,

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there’d probably be
a lack of wattage in these two cities.

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Argentina tried to block
the dam’s construction,

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arguing that it could be used
as a weapon,

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blown up to flood an important portion
of the country’s north.

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No-one ever mentions that.

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A lot goes unsaid
under dictatorships.

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In families as well.

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That’s my own translation of family:
family is the unsaid.

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At home we never speak
about our losses.

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Let's go!

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This one must be
the Coffee Highway.

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-Did you build this road?
-I did.

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I was already the company’s director
by that stage. I went there often.

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Dad was not at the hospital
when I was born, right mom?

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When you were born,
I was done with the Coffee Highway,

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and we had a new contract to build
a road from Maringá to Campo Mourão.

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So I moved to Maringá.

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But as the company
was landing other assignments,

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I decided not to take the
family out there,

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because it would have left you
all unprotected.

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This is a railroad,
"Central do Paraná".

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It was a monumental construction project
back then, especially for our company.

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Who was the chief engineer
on this job?

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Well, me.

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What other jobs did the company have?

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The Porto Alegre Freeway,
which was a major work.

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The Rio-Santos road.
All during the revolutionary period.

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During the military regime,
there was no margin for error.

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They were very strict
about deadlines.

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I see...
Let's see those other pictures...

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-That's me.
-You were very young, dad!

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I was young.

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35 years old.

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I'm talking with Andreazza there.

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The military,
no matter what you say Heloisa,

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were very correct on this matter.

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They had limits for corruption!

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There was the political side,
they killed many people,

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also the revolution and everything else.
That's the political side.

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But on the other hand, no one used power
to become a millionaire! They could have!

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Big deal! That's the least
you can expect from a leader!

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In theory!

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There's no merit
in a government for not stealing.

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All I’m saying is that
they had that in their culture!

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I’m going to have
another bite to eat.

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They could have robbed!

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Once the military takes over,
what happens?

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You’re no longer free,
you can't speak your mind...

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There was no alternative.

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You’ve got "Moral and Civic Education"
taught at school,

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you can't talk,
you can't form students' unions...

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I was forced to leave university
in 1984. Get it?

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I understand that...

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It's not about "understanding"!
You can't live like that!

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At the time,
there was no alternative.

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It was so untenable
that the regime fell,

00:14:04.469 --> 00:14:06.972
and we’re still fighting
for our democracy today,

00:14:07.180 --> 00:14:08.515
because we haven't got one!

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Why do I hate
the military regime?

00:14:10.767 --> 00:14:13.562
Because they did whatever
they wanted,

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killed whomever they wanted.

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Heloisa,
I'm not in favor of that.

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But there comes a time,
when there are no alternatives.

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You're in a war.

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Either you kill your opponent
or get killed.

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There's no middle ground.

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Is that okay for you?

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What?

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This discussion? Of course not!
It's pointless!

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-No, there's a point!
-This discussion is not the film.

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I’m gonna cut the camera
and the sound, because...

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I learned to swim
with my father.

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He always told me
to go in deeper, further... and I did.

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While my country was in the grip
of the military regime,

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I was at home
in a cushy bubble.

00:16:04.464 --> 00:16:06.758
My father gave me a horse
and I learned how to ride,

00:16:06.967 --> 00:16:09.678
he gave me a boat
and I learned to sail.

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And I felt totally protected.
I thought the world was perfect.

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I have never found
such perfection again since.

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Oh! This is from Buenos Aires,
Bariloche.

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This crooked leg can only be Helo.

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-Crooked leg must be Helo.
-That's me.

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Look at me!

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Gosh, mom skiing, unbelievable!

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This is the ski resort
we used to go to.

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Did you also ski?

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Oh, I was a hotshot.
But I was scared to death.

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When I got to the end
I just sat on the ramp.

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This was the dream vacation,
wasn’t it, mom?

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It was the only vacation I remember
dad being with us the whole time.

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Only once, never again.

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We travelled a lot,
but he was never there.

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I never used to take a vacation.

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When June, July came,

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Eneida and the children travelled
to a water park or São Paulo,

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I'd take them there,
stay for a couple days and come back.

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He took us there when he could,
otherwise the firm’s chauffeur drove us.

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Wasn't it on that trip that we called
Curitiba, your father?

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Yes, it was.

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And I said: It’s not snowing here
and he said: it is here.

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It was snowing in Curitiba
that day.

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And Álvaro thought
he was joking.

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Are you kidding?
We don’t have snow in Curitiba!

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It was the only day,
that big day it snowed in Curitiba.

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Look, there’s dad! Finally...
Márcia took this picture.

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-For sure.
-Great job.

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It’s snapped.

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Go on a bit more, dad.

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-I can't.
-Why not?

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-The nylon’s snapped.
-Holy Mary.

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I could pretend.

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Ok, go on then.

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It was just after dawn when the
Federal Police arrived at the building

00:19:25.958 --> 00:19:29.086
where former president Lula lives
in São Bernardo do Campo.

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They were there to take him in
for questioning,

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executing a warrant
issued by Judge Sérgio Moro.

00:19:33.757 --> 00:19:36.969
Under Brazilian law,
a judge can order a person of interest

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to be brought in
for coercive questioning.

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Lula left São Bernardo
in an unmarked police car

00:19:43.809 --> 00:19:46.228
and was taken to Congonhas airport
in São Paulo.

00:19:46.436 --> 00:19:48.313
As soon as the news spread,

00:19:48.522 --> 00:19:51.859
supporters congregated
outside Lula's apartment building.

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They’re up to something,
aren’t they Álvaro?

00:19:54.987 --> 00:19:57.865
They’re really up to something.

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Who?

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The Workers' Party (PT), the union,
they want to cause a real mess.

00:20:05.038 --> 00:20:06.748
That’s what Globo TV
wants to show.

00:20:06.957 --> 00:20:08.292
The operation is investigating

00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:11.253
ex-president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva
and members of his family

00:20:11.461 --> 00:20:13.547
for their dealings with engineering
and construction firms

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involved in the Petrobrás
corruption scheme.

00:20:16.508 --> 00:20:21.889
In total, Judge Sérgio Moro has issued
33 search and arrest warrants

00:20:22.097 --> 00:20:24.391
and 11 coercive
questioning orders.

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The Workers' Party did a lot wrong.
I think they should all be arrested.

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Every single politician proven to be
involved in corruption has to be jailed.

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Not just Lula.
The whole lot.

00:20:38.071 --> 00:20:41.241
But the real aim in arresting Lula,
at this juncture at least,

00:20:41.450 --> 00:20:44.161
is to block his candidacy
in 2018.

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Operation Car wash
has a political aim.

00:20:48.999 --> 00:20:52.002
In the notebook for this film,
I wrote down one more thing:

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When we look at our country’s History,
since the 1930s

00:20:56.548 --> 00:21:00.969
only four elected presidents
finished their term of office.

00:21:01.678 --> 00:21:05.682
From time to time,
our choices are drowned.

00:21:06.892 --> 00:21:08.393
It’s very sad, all this.

00:21:08.602 --> 00:21:11.480
Because I don’t believe
Car Wash will fix the country.

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They are not heroes for me.

00:21:13.232 --> 00:21:15.776
The Operation's aim
isn’t to end corruption.

00:21:15.984 --> 00:21:17.528
Their investigations are biased.

00:21:17.778 --> 00:21:19.071
How are they biased?

00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:23.867
Because they are only investigating
the Workers' Party!

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Don’t you think
Judge Sergio Moro is partial?

00:21:27.996 --> 00:21:32.084
Don’t you think
he’s cleaning things up?

00:21:32.376 --> 00:21:37.881
All around the world
Petrobrás is being prosecuted, Heloisa.

00:21:38.090 --> 00:21:41.760
This is his job,
but he can’t act above the law.

00:21:42.052 --> 00:21:43.637
But above the law in what?

00:21:43.845 --> 00:21:45.847
Just like the military were,
above the law.

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I’m afraid of him,
he could knock here and arrest me.

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-Don't exaggerate.
-But that's exactly what he does!

00:21:51.895 --> 00:21:54.314
There’s nothing arbitrary
in his actions.

00:21:55.732 --> 00:21:57.025
He's acting within the law.

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Otherwise he’d already
be challenged in court.

00:21:59.653 --> 00:22:02.990
Ok, let’s open a bottle of wine
and celebrate the violence in this country.

00:22:03.198 --> 00:22:06.034
Juridically speaking,
he's done nothing wrong.

00:22:06.535 --> 00:22:08.579
All the best lawyers
are with him.

00:22:09.997 --> 00:22:12.374
I won't give up this time.

00:22:12.583 --> 00:22:14.793
I’m not going to switch off
the camera.

00:22:15.043 --> 00:22:19.047
I must go on filming this zone
of conflict and familiarity.

00:22:19.923 --> 00:22:22.134
Heloisa. Álvaro.

00:22:22.885 --> 00:22:25.929
One step forward,
two steps backwards...

00:22:26.889 --> 00:22:30.100
I really don’t like myself
when I’m with my father.

00:22:30.309 --> 00:22:33.353
My movie is about
arbitrariness.

00:22:33.520 --> 00:22:35.147
That's the only reason
we're talking about it.

00:22:35.355 --> 00:22:39.693
Corruption is endemic in our country,
it's our modus operandi.

00:22:39.860 --> 00:22:42.988
What I really want to talk about
is arbitrariness.

00:24:57.581 --> 00:25:00.167
I’m not going to discuss
Sergio Moro anymore.

00:25:00.375 --> 00:25:03.962
Sergio Moro is your hero.
He’s not my hero.

00:25:04.171 --> 00:25:05.589
I won’t argue.

00:25:05.797 --> 00:25:08.258
I don’t have a hero.
He’s just doing his job.

00:25:08.467 --> 00:25:12.179
Yeah, a media-darling,
all handsome. Whatever.

00:25:12.387 --> 00:25:14.765
He's not obliged to be ugly...

00:25:14.973 --> 00:25:18.018
The fact is,

00:25:18.227 --> 00:25:23.106
nothing he has done
has been legally contested.

00:25:23.313 --> 00:25:26.860
Not yet! It just went
to the supreme court yesterday.

00:25:27.069 --> 00:25:29.196
Take a look at the news tomorrow,
then we'll talk.

00:25:29.404 --> 00:25:34.493
They’ve just sent a complaint
to the supreme court alleging bias.

00:25:34.701 --> 00:25:38.539
-Nothing will come of that.
-Not from your perspective perhaps.

00:25:38.747 --> 00:25:40.457
Because you're from a generation

00:25:40.666 --> 00:25:44.044
that believes the military regime
saw its projects through to completion!

00:25:44.253 --> 00:25:45.420
Sure!

00:25:46.088 --> 00:25:50.842
But no doubt the ex-president
is bigger news than anyone else.

00:25:51.051 --> 00:25:52.135
That's not the issue,

00:25:52.344 --> 00:25:54.972
the real point is that Lula is
a contender for election in 2018.

00:25:55.180 --> 00:25:57.182
-No he's not. Hasn't a hope.
-Let's see.

00:25:57.391 --> 00:26:01.562
He’ll be in jail before that, I reckon.
There's no wriggling out of this.

00:26:05.858 --> 00:26:07.901
They went too far,
it’s a shame.

00:26:09.194 --> 00:26:11.947
It’s a shame. It's very sad!

00:26:13.115 --> 00:26:15.826
I need some air. God!

00:26:16.034 --> 00:26:18.704
I can’t stand this Globo TV channel,
it drives me crazy!

00:26:23.959 --> 00:26:25.544
Don’t get emotionally involved.

00:26:25.752 --> 00:26:31.258
How can’t I, with a media like this?
How can I not get emotionally involved?

00:26:32.092 --> 00:26:34.845
There's no way not to,
unfortunately!

00:26:37.180 --> 00:26:38.348
Well...

00:26:38.807 --> 00:26:41.852
I had something very different in mind,
not the TV news.

00:26:42.060 --> 00:26:45.189
I have this map
of the state of Paraná,

00:26:45.397 --> 00:26:46.815
and that one.

00:26:47.983 --> 00:26:49.943
It depends
on what you want to know.

00:26:50.152 --> 00:26:53.989
I just want you to draw a line.
Where’s the pen?

00:26:55.115 --> 00:26:58.869
-A coloured pen would be better.
-Let me get one.

00:27:01.455 --> 00:27:04.750
I wanted us to draw a line
on the map.

00:27:05.125 --> 00:27:06.251
What?

00:27:06.460 --> 00:27:09.213
The main construction sites
you worked on.

00:27:09.421 --> 00:27:12.674
I worked and coordinated
several construction sites.

00:27:12.883 --> 00:27:16.887
In southernmost Rio Grande do Sul,
near the border with Uruguay,

00:27:17.179 --> 00:27:22.976
and a number of smaller roads
in the south-west of Santa Catarina.

00:27:23.894 --> 00:27:25.812
In Paraná,

00:27:26.813 --> 00:27:31.068
I took part in the building
of the Curitiba-Paranaguá road.

00:27:31.902 --> 00:27:37.157
And, the most important project
of the day for Paraná,

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:44.331
the railroad
from Apucarana to Ponta Grossa.

00:27:45.249 --> 00:27:46.583
Here it is.

00:27:50.295 --> 00:27:56.510
You can see from the map
how important this railroad was.

00:27:57.219 --> 00:28:00.597
It was finished right on time.

00:28:01.431 --> 00:28:04.476
-How many kilometres does it run?
-330 km.

00:28:04.685 --> 00:28:08.981
It really crosses
a good chunk of the state.

00:28:09.356 --> 00:28:11.650
You can see here
what it represents.

00:28:13.527 --> 00:28:18.657
These 330 km made the railroad
shorter and more modern.

00:28:18.866 --> 00:28:25.747
It made Paraná's railroad system
viable, economically.

00:28:43.265 --> 00:28:46.101
What I find really sad
about this country

00:28:46.310 --> 00:28:49.229
is that it's all about protecting
the big landowners,

00:28:49.438 --> 00:28:53.108
that's the priority for congress:
big estates, soy plantations, timber.

00:28:53.317 --> 00:28:58.405
But to generate jobs
and improve living conditions,

00:28:58.614 --> 00:29:01.241
what these regions really need
is industrialization.

00:29:01.450 --> 00:29:08.165
So what we have to do
is to foster the industry.

00:29:08.373 --> 00:29:12.085
So, for the greater good,
I’m gonna just flatten everything.

00:29:12.336 --> 00:29:14.546
Bring in the steamrollers
and that's that.

00:29:14.755 --> 00:29:16.173
No, no... don’t be so shrill.

00:29:16.381 --> 00:29:18.926
But does the greater good need
power plants everywhere?

00:29:19.134 --> 00:29:20.677
It's about nation-building.

00:29:21.678 --> 00:29:24.097
Generate wealth,
you generate benefits!

00:30:53.145 --> 00:30:56.607
MR. DRIVER, PARK SLOWLY
DO NOT BRAKE ABRUPTLY

00:30:56.815 --> 00:31:00.485
DO NOT STAY ON THE  LIFT

00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:30.552
This map shows

00:33:30.761 --> 00:33:35.390
only 15 years of your life,
right?

00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.893
-Yes!
-The time you worked at CR Almeida.

00:33:38.101 --> 00:33:43.649
In just 15 years you worked on 22 major
construction projects throughout Brazil.

00:33:43.857 --> 00:33:50.030
What strikes me as crazy,
on the personal side,

00:33:50.239 --> 00:33:55.953
is that you dedicated so much energy,
for someone who was only an employee.

00:33:56.161 --> 00:33:58.413
Then you decided
to set up your own company

00:33:58.622 --> 00:34:00.749
and take a shot
at an independent career.

00:34:00.958 --> 00:34:05.754
-Yes and I didn't make it.
-It had nothing to do with the country?

00:34:05.963 --> 00:34:08.423
The country’s got nothing
to do with it.

00:34:10.133 --> 00:34:14.805
I was in class when my father
showed up asking me for the car key.

00:34:16.640 --> 00:34:21.895
From that day on the car was gone
and there was never a word about it.

00:34:22.938 --> 00:34:25.315
Years later,
I realized on my own

00:34:25.524 --> 00:34:28.902
that he had sold the car
to pay off part of his debts.

00:34:29.570 --> 00:34:31.738
The Brazilian economic miracle
was crumbling.

00:34:31.947 --> 00:34:33.615
And the crumbling
started at home.

00:34:33.824 --> 00:34:37.703
Hang on, Heloisa!
It is not like that!

00:34:37.910 --> 00:34:44.251
Don't use me as an example.

00:34:44.585 --> 00:34:48.630
I want to make clear that...
to sum it up...

00:34:50.841 --> 00:34:53.347
... my story is not emblematic.

00:34:53.759 --> 00:34:58.805
You can’t look at my trajectory
and generalize.

00:34:59.014 --> 00:35:03.018
I’m not generalizing.
I’m talking about you.

00:35:03.226 --> 00:35:09.149
I went bankrupt because
I bit off more than I could chew.

00:35:09.733 --> 00:35:13.945
I was too ambitious
and started expanding my business,

00:35:14.154 --> 00:35:19.493
which got me mired in debt.

00:35:19.785 --> 00:35:23.121
It was a struggle, you know?
It took a long time.

00:35:23.330 --> 00:35:25.791
Things wear you down,
you waste time

00:35:25.999 --> 00:35:31.088
because you’re not producing anything,
you’re just plugging holes.

00:37:09.227 --> 00:37:11.271
Oh no, it's snagged!

00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.732
I hope it’s not serious.

00:37:15.233 --> 00:37:17.319
Just rewind the film
and it will be ok.

00:37:19.029 --> 00:37:25.702
Rewind it and fit it back
on the sprockets.

00:37:26.828 --> 00:37:28.955
Look! It's you, Helo!

00:37:29.623 --> 00:37:33.502
-Wow, how fast!
-What a show off!

00:37:34.336 --> 00:37:36.630
So small
and already a great swimmer.

00:37:36.838 --> 00:37:38.924
You were the worst swimmer
of all three.

00:37:39.132 --> 00:37:41.718
We both have the same problem
when swimming.

00:37:41.927 --> 00:37:43.428
That’s kind of genetic,
isn’t it?

00:37:43.637 --> 00:37:45.972
I'm a good swimmer,
but I don't glide in the water,

00:37:46.181 --> 00:37:47.474
I have to make an effort.

00:37:47.891 --> 00:37:51.269
Oh God, again! Damn!

00:37:52.145 --> 00:37:54.731
There was a time when
I couldn’t see these things.

00:37:54.940 --> 00:37:58.568
No albums, nothing.
It made me so nostalgic, so sad.

00:37:58.777 --> 00:38:02.614
Especially when I was alone at home,
after the three girls had left.

00:38:02.906 --> 00:38:07.077
Heloisa in São Paulo, Luciane in London
and Márcia, married.

00:38:07.285 --> 00:38:08.412
Recording, right?

00:38:11.123 --> 00:38:12.374
This is reverse.

00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:15.210
Oh God,
I’m doing something wrong.

00:38:15.419 --> 00:38:17.254
The loop is OK...

00:38:22.259 --> 00:38:24.177
I'll show you the problem.

00:38:25.470 --> 00:38:27.889
-The problem is here, in the window.
-Here, look.

00:38:28.181 --> 00:38:32.894
The sprockets
are not running properly,

00:38:33.103 --> 00:38:36.606
the film is loose.

00:38:36.815 --> 00:38:38.734
This one here.

00:38:38.942 --> 00:38:41.319
It's not running.

00:38:42.988 --> 00:38:44.948
Have I changed anything here?

00:38:45.282 --> 00:38:49.411
Let me put the cover back,
because otherwise the light gets too...

00:38:49.619 --> 00:38:51.747
it’s a dichroic...

00:38:52.664 --> 00:38:54.541
Let me take a look at...

00:38:55.292 --> 00:38:58.045
Let’s try again.

00:39:04.676 --> 00:39:05.927
Take it out first.

00:39:07.554 --> 00:39:09.431
Let’s test it.

00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:11.266
No, not in reverse.

00:39:11.475 --> 00:39:14.686
It doesn’t matter.
Let’s just see if it works.

00:39:14.895 --> 00:39:17.189
It won’t work.
Perforation must be on this side.

00:39:17.397 --> 00:39:19.316
It has nothing to do
with the perforation.

00:39:19.524 --> 00:39:22.736
-To go through here.
-There’s no need.

00:39:22.944 --> 00:39:27.324
It’s just to see
if there's a problem with the spool.

00:39:27.532 --> 00:39:33.455
-But why reverse if there’s nothing to...
-No, no. Just to see if it works...

00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:40.754
It’s the reel.
That’s where the problem is.

00:39:42.506 --> 00:39:44.883
This spool is not latching.

00:39:46.385 --> 00:39:50.597
This crappy piece of plastic
has done me in.

00:39:50.806 --> 00:39:53.058
-This spool isn’t good.
-No, it isn't.

00:39:53.266 --> 00:39:55.519
We have to get another one.

00:40:02.651 --> 00:40:04.361
I was 22 years old.

00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.072
I was dating this girl.

00:40:07.989 --> 00:40:10.075
We were making out
on the living room sofa

00:40:10.283 --> 00:40:12.035
when my father walked in on us.

00:40:13.578 --> 00:40:16.998
He didn’t know what to do with me,
nor I with him.

00:40:18.291 --> 00:40:19.751
So I left.

00:40:24.506 --> 00:40:27.134
Today, 25 years later,

00:40:27.426 --> 00:40:32.639
I’m doing this film about my father
with Tina, the love of my life.

00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:39.730
Look dad, my partner and I
bought these lenses.

00:40:40.022 --> 00:40:43.567
I store them in a rental.
Tina brought them over.

00:40:43.775 --> 00:40:47.654
My partner owns the rental,
I bought them in the USA.

00:40:47.946 --> 00:40:50.741
Are they good for something?

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:55.704
They are very sensitive
to light.

00:40:55.912 --> 00:40:59.291
-For dark places?
-Yeah, totally amazing.

00:41:02.961 --> 00:41:05.964
Very high quality lenses.

00:41:09.885 --> 00:41:12.054
We’re leaving the projector here

00:41:12.262 --> 00:41:14.765
so she can show some clips
on her birthday.

00:41:19.269 --> 00:41:21.104
It was 1973,

00:41:22.606 --> 00:41:24.900
at the height
of the regime’s repression.

00:41:25.484 --> 00:41:28.987
I was six years old and my parents
were on a round-the-world trip.

00:41:30.530 --> 00:41:34.409
My father took pictures of Japan,
Hawaii, and, for me,

00:41:34.618 --> 00:41:37.204
it was a whole world out there
to be discovered.

00:41:42.376 --> 00:41:46.213
I’d wait weeks hoping for a Sunday
my father was home

00:41:46.421 --> 00:41:48.965
so he could show us
his travel slides.

00:41:54.346 --> 00:42:00.727
He’d hook up a four-channel stereo and
we’d spend the day traveling the world.

00:42:11.029 --> 00:42:17.369
My father gave me my first camera.
I took my first pictures with it.

00:42:37.305 --> 00:42:42.102
Click on 'add extension'
to close this window.

00:42:56.074 --> 00:43:01.371
I’m just looking for something
I could do for you.

00:43:01.580 --> 00:43:05.167
But we’ve done it already.

00:43:05.375 --> 00:43:08.003
We could do something else.
You know?

00:43:08.295 --> 00:43:11.548
Listen Helo, I think there’s a mistake
in your whole plan.

00:43:11.757 --> 00:43:12.799
Which is?

00:43:13.008 --> 00:43:16.094
I think you ought to settle

00:43:16.303 --> 00:43:22.642
on the final concept for your film.

00:43:22.851 --> 00:43:27.022
It’s more important than
some of the things you’re filming.

00:43:27.230 --> 00:43:30.942
You don’t need more things,
or maybe you need to be more selective.

00:43:31.151 --> 00:43:34.613
Otherwise
you’ll keep filming things

00:43:34.821 --> 00:43:37.491
without knowing
what to do with them.

00:43:37.866 --> 00:43:42.245
The end
is the most important thing.

00:43:42.454 --> 00:43:44.164
Yes, but the film is a process.

00:43:44.373 --> 00:43:49.669
I have to go on
filming in order to build a narrative.

00:43:49.836 --> 00:43:53.465
Why don’t you build
the narrative beforehand?

00:43:53.673 --> 00:43:55.550
I do it while filming.

00:43:55.759 --> 00:43:57.761
But you’re doing the opposite.

00:43:57.969 --> 00:44:01.139
I’m building, filming, editing.

00:44:01.348 --> 00:44:04.726
I filmed and then spent nearly
2 months in the editing room.

00:44:04.935 --> 00:44:08.063
Now I’m filming again,
then I’ll go back in for more editing.

00:44:08.313 --> 00:44:11.858
The narrative is built
through the filming and the editing.

00:44:12.067 --> 00:44:17.614
It’s not an investigative film,
it’s not an interview film.

00:44:17.823 --> 00:44:20.742
But you’re telling a story,
every film tells a story.

00:44:27.916 --> 00:44:29.918
Let me see how far it is.

00:44:41.304 --> 00:44:42.597
Ok.

00:44:43.974 --> 00:44:45.767
Let me just take this cup.

00:44:52.441 --> 00:44:54.651
Which is the better map?

00:44:54.860 --> 00:45:00.282
This one. It's clearer,
but it is not up to date.

00:45:00.490 --> 00:45:03.368
So, what's left to decide?

00:45:03.910 --> 00:45:08.290
We'll either take this way,
the longer one, or this route here.

00:45:08.498 --> 00:45:11.793
The rest seems to be ok...

00:45:12.002 --> 00:45:15.589
In any case, to go through the mountains,
we have to head for Apucarana.

00:45:15.797 --> 00:45:18.341
Sure,
Apucarana is a done deal.

00:45:18.550 --> 00:45:24.306
Up to Apucarana,
there is no other way.

00:45:24.514 --> 00:45:30.771
The question is whether we go
via the Maringá-Cianorte road

00:45:31.521 --> 00:45:37.652
or this one, which is less busy
and perhaps better.

00:45:37.986 --> 00:45:40.364
I suppose we'd have to ask.

00:45:40.864 --> 00:45:43.408
I invited my father
to take a trip with me,

00:45:43.617 --> 00:45:46.536
to visit the place that had
inspired me to make this film,

00:45:47.454 --> 00:45:50.957
to stand at the river's edge and
see the landscape transformed.

00:45:52.751 --> 00:45:56.838
He said that going there
was irrelevant to him.

00:45:57.714 --> 00:46:02.052
We did some earth work here.
I don't know the whole road,

00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:06.181
it's very old, but it's paved,
so it should be good.

00:46:07.766 --> 00:46:10.769
Less busy.
So what are our alternatives?

00:46:10.977 --> 00:46:14.731
Either we sleep in Campo Mourão
or in Maringá.

00:46:15.065 --> 00:46:19.111
Cause from Campo Mourão till...

00:46:21.196 --> 00:46:23.642
-Guaíra.
-Till Guaíra it's 270 km.

00:46:25.525 --> 00:46:26.735
We're off.

00:46:34.201 --> 00:46:38.121
We were supposed to leave at 8:30.
It's now 10 o'clock.

00:46:56.765 --> 00:46:59.643
I woke up early, and my father was
already in the living room

00:46:59.851 --> 00:47:01.561
with his bag packed.

00:47:02.104 --> 00:47:05.440
It’s the first time we travel together,
just the two of us.

00:47:30.966 --> 00:47:32.676
Take the right.

00:47:32.884 --> 00:47:35.262
-Right or left? Left.
-Take a turn.

00:47:44.313 --> 00:47:46.773
-Where are you going?
-Didn't you say left?

00:47:46.982 --> 00:47:48.984
-No. Right!
-Right?

00:47:49.901 --> 00:47:52.362
Hold on. Which way
am I supposed to take, dad?

00:47:52.571 --> 00:47:53.613
Go straight.

00:47:53.822 --> 00:47:56.575
Straight towards
the Telepar building?

00:47:56.783 --> 00:47:59.911
No. Take the first right
and follow the road.

00:48:00.120 --> 00:48:02.372
-Ah, the express lane already?
-Sure.

00:48:38.867 --> 00:48:41.411
-Overtake him. Don’t stay behind him.
-I will!

00:49:14.569 --> 00:49:15.946
-Good afternoon.
-Hi!

00:49:16.154 --> 00:49:20.075
We’re helping DNIT
on a traffic control operation.

00:49:20.283 --> 00:49:22.452
We’ll do a quick interview
with you, ok?

00:49:22.661 --> 00:49:24.663
-Ok!
-Let me get your plate number.

00:49:25.247 --> 00:49:26.665
Do you know what DNIT is?

00:49:26.873 --> 00:49:31.044
National Infrastructure
and Transport Department.

00:49:31.837 --> 00:49:33.338
What year is your vehicle?

00:49:33.714 --> 00:49:38.176
It’s 2011, 2012.
Hold on, let me check.

00:49:38.385 --> 00:49:39.428
It’s 2012.

00:49:39.636 --> 00:49:41.430
-Yes, 2012.
-2012?

00:49:41.722 --> 00:49:45.225
-Is it a private vehicle, a company car?
-It's private.

00:49:45.726 --> 00:49:47.728
-Fuel?
-Fuel!

00:49:48.854 --> 00:49:51.606
-Gasoline.
-Gas. I use gas.

00:49:52.190 --> 00:49:54.443
Where are you coming from?

00:49:54.651 --> 00:49:57.070
From Curitiba,
the city of Curitiba.

00:49:58.363 --> 00:49:59.573
Destination?

00:49:59.990 --> 00:50:02.451
We’re going to...Guaíra.

00:50:07.122 --> 00:50:12.669
How often do you take this route:
once a week, once a month, year?

00:50:13.337 --> 00:50:14.963
Once a year.

00:50:19.885 --> 00:50:22.721
The choice of route was because:
it’s the shortest,

00:50:22.929 --> 00:50:25.599
the fastest
or the only possible way?

00:50:25.807 --> 00:50:29.561
It’s the only possible way.

00:50:30.562 --> 00:50:33.815
The reason for today’s journey:
work, health, leisure...?

00:50:34.024 --> 00:50:35.108
Work!

00:50:36.193 --> 00:50:37.444
Work and leisure.

00:50:39.112 --> 00:50:40.947
We will try to fit
some leisure in.

00:50:42.115 --> 00:50:43.241
That’s all. Thank you.

00:50:43.450 --> 00:50:45.702
Sorry to inconvenience you.
Have a nice trip.

00:50:49.206 --> 00:50:52.376
Lucky us.

00:50:52.959 --> 00:50:55.003
They pick you at random.

00:50:56.296 --> 00:50:57.839
They didn’t even ask,

00:50:58.048 --> 00:51:03.637
“What is this? What’s this camera for?”
Funny people.

00:51:33.500 --> 00:51:35.961
There’s never been a crisis
as bad as this one.

00:51:36.169 --> 00:51:38.171
This has always been
a lawless country.

00:51:38.422 --> 00:51:42.092
There've always been judiciary coups,
it's always controlled by the elite.

00:51:42.300 --> 00:51:44.344
Nothing new about that.

00:51:44.553 --> 00:51:49.308
Heloisa, in Brazil...

00:51:49.516 --> 00:51:53.854
the presidential system
is almost imperial.

00:51:54.438 --> 00:51:58.525
Presidents can do anything,

00:51:58.734 --> 00:52:02.654
they control the congress,
the senate, everything,

00:52:04.489 --> 00:52:09.953
everything but the judiciary.

00:52:10.162 --> 00:52:13.749
And even that,
they may not control 100%

00:52:13.957 --> 00:52:15.584
but they control 50%.

00:52:16.918 --> 00:52:20.839
Well, if the president doesn’t exercise
his power to get things done,

00:52:21.048 --> 00:52:24.259
he has to be taken down.
That’s what happened to the "lady".

00:52:25.761 --> 00:52:28.180
The problem is not the" lady",
it's the country.

00:52:28.555 --> 00:52:31.683
The problem is not the "lady".

00:52:31.892 --> 00:52:37.606
The problem is that there has never
been true justice in this country.

00:52:37.814 --> 00:52:41.735
The problem is our oligarchy, our elite
always deciding what's going to happen.

00:52:41.943 --> 00:52:43.945
It’s always going to be like that.

00:52:44.279 --> 00:52:47.824
This is only happening because
there’s more transparency in the country.

00:52:48.033 --> 00:52:49.910
There is a president
who let it happen.

00:52:50.118 --> 00:52:51.620
-You can’t say that.
-But of course she did!

00:52:51.828 --> 00:52:53.872
She can go to jail.
Lula and her.

00:52:54.081 --> 00:52:57.292
They won’t find anything on her.
It’s very unlikely.

00:52:57.501 --> 00:52:58.835
But she’s complicit.

00:52:59.044 --> 00:53:02.547
Michel Temer is more likely
to go down than President Dilma.

00:53:02.756 --> 00:53:05.801
What changed in Brazil
is that more people had access.

00:53:06.176 --> 00:53:08.345
Now these people
are demanding their rights

00:53:08.553 --> 00:53:12.849
and the interim president
is unable to run this country.

00:53:13.058 --> 00:53:15.060
The law in this country
is not enforced!

00:53:15.644 --> 00:53:19.648
Nothing is done
in the interest of the country.

00:53:19.856 --> 00:53:22.025
I told you once,
but you didn't accept it.

00:53:22.234 --> 00:53:26.071
The only time there was real interest
in the country,

00:53:26.279 --> 00:53:30.909
a real plan of government
was during the revolution.

00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:36.164
The military had a plan.
There hasn't been a plan since.

00:53:36.373 --> 00:53:41.378
What plan?
A plan to build roads?

00:53:41.586 --> 00:53:43.630
All you need to do
is read about it.

00:53:43.839 --> 00:53:45.882
They controlled everything!

00:53:46.091 --> 00:53:49.177
They issued a nationwide
gagging order, AI-5.

00:53:49.386 --> 00:53:51.263
They tortured
and locked people up.

00:53:51.471 --> 00:53:54.016
That was bound to happen
at some stage, and it did.

00:53:54.224 --> 00:53:55.934
It's past. It's over.

00:53:57.936 --> 00:54:02.024
It's a tragedy!

00:54:10.198 --> 00:54:13.076
He says lady,
I say President.

00:54:13.243 --> 00:54:15.871
He drinks beer,
I drink whisky.

00:54:17.164 --> 00:54:21.168
He likes pumpkin pie,
I hate pumpkin pie.

00:54:21.543 --> 00:54:24.755
He says "revolution”,
I say dictatorship.

00:54:24.963 --> 00:54:28.425
He says it was impeachment,
I say it was a coup.

00:54:29.551 --> 00:54:32.554
He is a table tennis ace,
so am I.

00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:14.930
Oh, this pier was...

00:55:16.932 --> 00:55:19.017
...when the water was higher.

00:55:20.894 --> 00:55:25.857
This is the place

00:55:27.025 --> 00:55:29.903
that inspired me
to make this movie.

00:55:32.656 --> 00:55:34.032
Has it changed?

00:55:34.533 --> 00:55:40.580
Yes. It’s become a watery desert.
Everything is drowned.

00:55:40.789 --> 00:55:43.083
This was where I’d planned
to finish my film.

00:55:43.291 --> 00:55:46.211
In this drowned,
submerged place...

00:55:48.255 --> 00:55:50.048
That’s why I brought him here.

00:55:50.257 --> 00:55:52.926
That’s why I really want
this moment to work.

00:55:53.135 --> 00:55:54.720
I try it three times.

00:55:54.928 --> 00:55:57.764
Three takes of the same scene.

00:55:57.973 --> 00:56:01.601
This is the place I told you about.
This place is...

00:56:11.820 --> 00:56:17.409
For him, this place means nothing.
No epiphany.

00:56:21.913 --> 00:56:27.085
This is the place I told you about.
Which inspired me to make the film.

00:56:27.502 --> 00:56:29.713
It’s beautiful here.

00:56:30.213 --> 00:56:31.923
I think it's sad.

00:56:47.939 --> 00:56:51.318
I woke up early, expecting
to have breakfast with my father,

00:56:54.529 --> 00:56:57.324
but he was down in the hotel lobby
reading the paper.

00:56:57.532 --> 00:56:59.660
He’d already had breakfast.

00:57:00.827 --> 00:57:04.122
Then, he asked me:
"Are we shooting today again?

00:57:04.873 --> 00:57:07.125
Didn’t yesterday’s stuff
do the trick?"

00:57:07.376 --> 00:57:09.753
My reply:
"I don’t think so, dad."

00:57:11.004 --> 00:57:13.632
So he suggested
another ending for the film.

00:57:33.610 --> 00:57:39.324
A swimming instructor once said to me:
the movements have to be in-synch.

00:57:39.533 --> 00:57:43.537
While the legs alternate
kicks with a flick of the knee,

00:57:43.912 --> 00:57:47.624
the arms cut
through air and water.

00:57:49.710 --> 00:57:52.004
We have the same
swimming style,

00:57:52.212 --> 00:57:55.882
we don't glide through the water,
we have to make an effort.

00:57:57.634 --> 00:58:00.804
My father and I
don’t have good synchronicity,

00:58:03.223 --> 00:58:05.600
but then I ask myself:

00:58:05.809 --> 00:58:08.729
what does it take
to have good synchronicity?

00:58:25.662 --> 00:58:28.165
But I think we’ve passed it.

00:58:28.373 --> 00:58:31.626
We must be close.
There are so many curves!

00:58:32.127 --> 00:58:33.712
I haven’t seen a bridge yet.

00:58:34.129 --> 00:58:38.800
The big concrete bridges
we saw yesterday in the photos.

00:58:39.384 --> 00:58:42.846
That one I showed you
from the material I’m working on.

00:58:43.055 --> 00:58:47.309
-Yes, that’s what I'm talking about.
-We haven't passed it.

00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:49.519
I’m looking to the left...

00:58:51.396 --> 00:58:53.190
We haven’t passed it.

00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.785
We’re late,
but there's enough daylight, right?

00:59:04.993 --> 00:59:06.411
Yes, sure.

00:59:09.331 --> 00:59:10.916
There's light.

00:59:14.086 --> 00:59:16.088
It’s more exciting this way.

00:59:18.048 --> 00:59:20.634
-Otherwise it’s boring.
-How did we pass it?

00:59:20.842 --> 00:59:22.636
It was really close to the toll.

00:59:22.803 --> 00:59:26.348
You thought...since you told me
about the mountains,

00:59:26.723 --> 00:59:29.685
I was assuming we had to go up
the mountains to see it.

00:59:29.893 --> 00:59:32.521
I thought that it would be
easy to see it.

00:59:32.938 --> 00:59:35.232
We have to pay more attention.

00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.025
It’s been over 30 years.

00:59:38.694 --> 00:59:42.280
And it must be hidden
by the bushes.

00:59:48.245 --> 00:59:50.414
But we’re still going up.

00:59:54.584 --> 00:59:56.420
Get in here and we’ll ask.

00:59:57.004 --> 00:59:58.630
There's someone there.

01:00:01.925 --> 01:00:04.761
We don’t even have to get out,
I’ll turn around here.

01:00:04.970 --> 01:00:07.472
You can ask him,
over there. Look.

01:00:09.016 --> 01:00:15.022
Hi, can you tell me where
those railway viaducts are?

01:00:15.814 --> 01:00:18.817
-Klabin?
-No, not Klabin.

01:00:19.026 --> 01:00:21.278
The tracks are behind you,
aren’t they?

01:00:21.862 --> 01:00:23.864
Plenty.

01:00:24.489 --> 01:00:26.825
And where are those tall
railway viaducts?

01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:29.703
Up ahead. About 8km.

01:00:29.911 --> 01:00:32.748
Those iron-topped viaducts.

01:00:32.956 --> 01:00:35.208
Yes. The tall pillars.

01:00:35.792 --> 01:00:39.421
About 8 km from here on your right.
You can see them from the road.

01:00:39.629 --> 01:00:41.506
-Good.
-We’re on the right track.

01:00:42.924 --> 01:00:45.927
-It must be around here.
-Yes, it must be.

01:00:47.179 --> 01:00:49.181
But I can’t find it.

01:00:52.267 --> 01:00:53.477
There it is!

01:00:53.685 --> 01:00:55.312
Wow! It’s beautiful!

01:00:55.729 --> 01:00:56.980
Wow!

01:00:58.482 --> 01:01:00.233
Let's see how we can get there.

01:01:01.485 --> 01:01:05.072
Drive that way,
up to the bridge.

01:01:07.240 --> 01:01:09.409
That’s why we couldn’t see it.

01:01:10.702 --> 01:01:13.789
Take the right there.

01:01:16.667 --> 01:01:19.169
The railway is in front of us,

01:01:19.378 --> 01:01:21.505
but I can't get there
because of the bush.

01:01:22.214 --> 01:01:24.675
Take the right.

01:01:31.515 --> 01:01:36.645
It’s amazing! Let me just back up,
Dad, and arrive again.

01:01:36.853 --> 01:01:38.313
-Dad?
-Yes!

01:01:43.318 --> 01:01:48.198
We can’t go too far
because it's not safe.

01:01:49.783 --> 01:01:53.495
The danger here is... That’s why
those safety areas are there.

01:01:53.870 --> 01:01:54.997
What areas?

01:01:56.081 --> 01:01:57.124
Can you see that?

01:01:57.332 --> 01:01:59.459
That’s where I save my life,
then.

01:01:59.668 --> 01:02:00.919
Yes, but you better not go.

01:02:01.128 --> 01:02:04.089
It's too risky. If a train comes,
it will come at high speed.

01:02:04.297 --> 01:02:05.924
There are no more trains today.

01:02:06.133 --> 01:02:08.635
The shot is there dad,
we should both go there.

01:02:08.844 --> 01:02:11.179
No, I won’t.
I’m afraid of heights.

01:02:11.596 --> 01:02:13.849
-Are you afraid of heights?
-Yes.

01:02:14.016 --> 01:02:17.311
I didn’t know that. So that’s why
you're not walking around here.

01:02:18.770 --> 01:02:20.105
Be careful here.

01:02:27.029 --> 01:02:29.656
For someone who’s afraid of heights,
this is wild, Dad.

01:02:29.865 --> 01:02:33.493
Oh, I’ve been all over here...

01:02:34.870 --> 01:02:36.246
This is crazy!

01:02:38.040 --> 01:02:41.376
Bosses are bosses, right?

01:02:44.379 --> 01:02:45.630
Bosses are bosses!

01:02:46.548 --> 01:02:48.258
Just look at this view.

01:03:31.718 --> 01:03:35.013
Damn!

01:03:39.017 --> 01:03:40.852
Dad, come over to the side!

01:03:41.061 --> 01:03:42.187
Where?

01:03:43.438 --> 01:03:44.564
Wonderful!

01:03:44.773 --> 01:03:45.816
See?

01:03:46.024 --> 01:03:48.110
No, don’t worry, dad.

01:03:49.903 --> 01:03:52.030
This is amazing.

01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.242
Don’t stay here, that train
must have around 80 cars.

01:03:55.993 --> 01:03:57.452
It’s a very long train.

01:04:02.374 --> 01:04:03.750
Look, it’s spectacular.

01:04:07.587 --> 01:04:08.839
He’s seen us.

01:04:18.348 --> 01:04:20.309
Look how many cars it has!

01:05:00.307 --> 01:05:03.435
Wow, that’s a lot of cars.

01:05:05.020 --> 01:05:06.980
This is like...

01:05:09.691 --> 01:05:12.611
In the old times, the bigger
compositions had up to 30 cars.

01:05:12.819 --> 01:05:17.574
Nowadays they have up
to 100 cars to make it viable.

01:05:20.827 --> 01:05:22.287
What did you say, dad?

01:05:25.290 --> 01:05:27.167
What did you say, dad?

01:05:27.376 --> 01:05:32.756
To make it worthwhile economically.
They freight...

01:05:45.310 --> 01:05:48.605
Isn’t it cool that we can see
a bit of the sun setting over there?

01:05:48.814 --> 01:05:51.984
We see the sun setting through
the gaps, when the train passes.

01:05:56.989 --> 01:05:58.323
Look now.

01:06:02.244 --> 01:06:03.829
The gap.

01:06:16.967 --> 01:06:19.136
Do you know
what made this possible?

01:06:21.430 --> 01:06:27.894
The track design
made long compositions possible.

01:06:29.563 --> 01:06:35.110
Look at the sun setting over there.
Look at the moon! The moon over there.

01:06:49.082 --> 01:06:55.047
TO MY SISTER
MÁRCIA PASSOS FRISCHMANN