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My mother used to say:

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\"Look, find a good man and get married.\"

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\"Because a woman without a man is lost.\"

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And we got married and I thought he was

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a supreme prince.

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when i got close

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from that little hill of my house,

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they came to hug me,
I said \"What happened?\".

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Then everyone trying to comfort me,

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but I wasn\'t even understanding why.

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It was first a push,

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then a slap,

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then... aggression really.

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Sometimes I feel like I shouldn\'t go on with life,

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But then I stop and look at the child, right?

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Because he was everything to her.

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If not me, who will take care of him?

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Brazil is the country of Latin America

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with the highest number of femicides.

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The survey shows that, between 2015

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and 2018, 17,000 women were
killed across the country

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I got married very young,

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I got married at 15 to 16 years old.

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Right at the beginning,

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Now I understand, before I didn\'t,

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violence has already begun.

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The little baby was born soon,
my daughter.

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When he arrived

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to see me, see the baby, the first time,

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it was him and my father.

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My father said:
\"How beautiful! How beautiful!

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You are so beautiful,
the baby is beautiful.\"

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He said like this:
\"Jesus, how beautiful?

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The woman is over,

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the little baby has a kneeling face!\".

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The horse was coming, right?

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Because the prince is getting away.

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But I forgave, I thought like this:

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\"Ah, man thing, man is just like that\".

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And I would go to church with his mother,

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with the same clothes,
I even learned to sew.

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She sewed. I really wanted
to be accepted by him.

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I was very much in love.

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But nothing pleased this man.

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He went out, did what he wanted,

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he had the friends he wanted.

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I couldn\'t go to my mother\'s house,

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he said that there was
no environment for me,

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I accepted.

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From these discussions
came the first push.

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He got fed up,
to this day I still think so,

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\"he got fed up\", you see? It\'s
hard to take it off, ok?

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Then I thought like this:

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\"Oh my God, I\'m doing it all wrong.

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I was not a good mother

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I was not a good housewife,
I am not a good wife,

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I\'m nothing, I\'m nobody.\"

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I felt like that, you know?

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Then I... I...
Sorry.

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But is...

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This is the hardest thing for me today...

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wait just a little.

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I...

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I was married to the father of my children

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25 years.

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When I got pregnant with her,

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then he started drinking and came home drunk

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and wanted to break everything
and was hitting me.

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Every time he hit me,

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he said to me:

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\"If you call the police or report it,

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I will set fire to the house

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and I will kill you and the children.\"

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As I kept my mouth shut,

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things only got worse.

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First, I got a push.
Then I got punched.

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Then I took a kick.
Afterwards, I was hit.

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Then I took a poke in the head.

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Then I got hammered.

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Then, one day, I said: \"No. I won\'t

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get beaten up all day.\"

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Then I started to denounce, right?

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He was arrested once, he didn\'t learn.

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Got home, did it again, called again.

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He was arrested again.

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He was arrested 4 to 5 times, you know?

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If we analyze the History of Brazil

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postcolonial,

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We see violence as a mark

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of building that country.

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So, under this urbanized
ground of these cities,

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there is a lot of blood of
black and indigenous women.

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That\'s what femicide is.

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It is the death of women
for reasons of gender.

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So the possession of the
woman as an object,

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a commodified body, the very condition

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of subordination in the system
of powers of our society

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creates the environment in which a woman

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can be discarded

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she can be murdered
she can be humiliated.

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By classifying that homicide as femicide

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for reasons of gender,

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it enters as a qualified homicide.

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Get out of the common crimes roll

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and goes to the roll of heavy
crimes against humanity,

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premeditated,

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and must be understood
and taken care of

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according to its severity.

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My daughter Mainara started to study at night,

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she started working on Make it Easy.

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Then her boss told her that she was too young

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to be working with cleaning, right?

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That she was supposed to continue studying

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that she was going to give her a better chance.

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Then, she went to school, started studying.

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A week later, she met this guy Felipe.

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He treated her very well,

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treated her son very well.

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David!

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But he was very jealous,
like, possessive, right?

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It was going to be three months
since they were together

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and she started, like, feeling sick

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and

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she went for an exam,

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They had been dating for three months.
She found out that she was pregnant.

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Did you miss me?

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Are you going to the hospital?

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I think I will, at night.

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And David?

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-I\'ll bring him back.
-Oh, okay.

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When she had an ultrasound,

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it turned out that she was
already five months pregnant,

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only her period was coming normal.

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Then she said to him:

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\"I\'m already five months pregnant,

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the baby is from...\"
she spoke the father\'s name

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\"It\'s not yours.\" Then he spoke like this:

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\"No, but no one needs to know.

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I take it as my own.\"

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Then she said: \"No, because
I already told the father\".

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That\'s when he started to get...

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kind of weird.

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Then he said that he
would take over the baby.

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The jealousy was dominating his mind

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and he was becoming a psychopath.

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It is very difficult for you
to recognize yourself in a

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conflicting relationship
like this, of violence.

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Because until I get to where I am today,

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It took me 25 years in a relationship.

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I never thought to go there, report it.

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I built a castle of dreams.

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So I thought he would get better.

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There was no Maria da Penha Law.

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With the Maria da Penha Law,

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there was a breakthrough

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in the identification of
what is domestic violence,

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which is the whole relationship thing,

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suffer physical aggression,
emotional aggression,

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psychological, economic.

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And it became popular.

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Because today you have
women from all over Brazil

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who know what the Maria da Penha Law is.

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Before the Maria da Penha Law,

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domestic and family violence against women

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was extremely silent,

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extremely underreported.

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We didn\'t have a legal mechanism

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of protection, of prevention.

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Today a man who commits a
crime of this nature

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can be arrested and charged in the act.

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If it is not a matter of a flagrant situation,

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the victim woman having courage,

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looking for the police station,

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denouncing this author of this violence,

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incident report will be registered

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and a police investigation is initiated

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to ascertain these facts.

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Is this the case you wanted
to pass on to me?

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Yes. This case here is the
third of the same victim...

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of the same suspect,

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of non-compliance with protective measures.

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-Yea.
-The judge has already issued

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- the arrest warrant.
-excellent.

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-We did the survey.
-Then let\'s do the organization

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for us to fulfill this arrest warrant

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as soon as possible.

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Ok.

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In addition, a very important mechanism

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that the Maria da Penha
Law creates, implements

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was the urgent protective measures.

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You request, for example, the removal

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of this author of this violence from home,

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the prohibition of him
approaching the victim,

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the witness, family

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by the distance that the judge determines,

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the prohibition of him having
contact with the victim

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by any means of communication,

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phone, email.

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Today, many times, that threat

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that used to be in person

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today it is often done
through social networks.

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A police officer friend of mine called.

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\"Marcia, is Mainara at home?\"

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Then I said to him:
\"But what do you want with her?\"

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He said, \"because...

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they told me

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that there was a boy assaulting a girl

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with a child on her lap\".

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Then I said, \"No, are you crazy?

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No way!\" Was the guy going
to raise his hand to her?

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A good guy like that, huh?

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According to mine... right?

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When he hung up, someone called me.

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Then the person said:
\"For the love of God,

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come home now,

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because a very terrible
thing has happened here\".

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So I left there and came running.

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Then I looked around the corner
and I saw her slipper.

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Like, she tried to run, right?

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Then she lost her slipper,

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the bag she had on her
back, from the baby.

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Then I couldn\'t even look, no.

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Then I turned around, I didn\'t
want to look, right?

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Because I was... Taking 12 stab wounds...

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and lying in the middle of the street...

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And the boy screaming.

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\"Chip killed Mom!
Chip killed Mom!

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And my mother was screaming at me.\"

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I met a companion.

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Today I recognize her as a companion, right?

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She invited me to be in a conversation circle.

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I didn\'t know that existed.

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I saw women talking
about everything I felt

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and I didn\'t know
how to express myself.

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It felt like I was seeing
myself in the other woman.

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I started going to councils,
participating in councils,

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to talk about public
policy, application.

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Then I came to understand that there
were within these public policies

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people who worked on
this control of violence,

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who worked on prevention,

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that there was a prevention
and protection network.

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And I saw those women speaking
with such propriety.

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The women introduced themselves
like this: \"I am Joana,

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I\'m a civil servant, a law student\",

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they\'re all doctors, right? These women.

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So these doctors talking

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about public policy.

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I said: \"I\'ll keep coming
here, I want to learn\".

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I usually say like this,
that the experience

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teaches you a lot.

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It may not even validate,
but it teaches you a lot.

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I\'m so focused on studying
what really moves me,

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which is the struggle,
the militancy with women.

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I work in this sense that housewives

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who are indoors today, who could not,

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did not want to study,
they are suffering violence.

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I think...

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she must have suffered
some kind of violence

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and not having had the courage to
speak up, do you understand?

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In the end, her latest posts

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it seemed like she knew something

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was going to happen to her.

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Maybe, she stayed with him
because she was afraid,

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he threatened her, right?

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Want to play dominoes?

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Where? On the floor?

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I have four grandchildren,

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but David is different.

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Because of everything
he\'s been through, right?

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He saw his mother murdered,

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he asked him not to do
that to his mother.

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That\'s why I have to move on

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somehow.

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He\'s the one who makes me get
up every morning at 6 am,

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to tidy him up, take him to school,

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he goes talking to me.

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Then it\'s 10:30 am, I\'ll go get him

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and he comes back talking to me.

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Question: \"Have you made lunch yet?\"

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If I have a problem:

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\"Why are you sad?\"
It\'s my mate.

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He watches everything I watch,
everything I watch he likes.

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Everything he likes, I like.

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We share everything.

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Is the only one...

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It\'s what gives me more
incentive to be able to live

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and to move on.

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Where did you find mango?

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I removed it from there.

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Did you pull it off?

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hum.

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Oh ok.

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-Grandma?
-Yes?

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-Can you peel it for me?
-I peel it later.

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Not necessarily the woman will die

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at the end of domestic violence.

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There are many types of violence
that this woman suffers.

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Psychological torture, blackmail,

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sometimes it\'s a depression.

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There are many cases of suicide.

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It ends up generating mental disorders, compulsions,

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obesity.

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Intersectionality shows that a person

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is multiple,

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she is not just a woman.

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She is also a woman who has a race-color,

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who has a social class.

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So you suffer racial violence,

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multiplied by sexist violence,

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multiplied by capitalist violence.

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Most women in Brazil are poor and black.

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All hot.

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Save the domino.

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Brazil has a very interesting record,

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very important, right?

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Which is the compulsory notification form,

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of sexual and domestic violence

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against women and children.

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campaigns are needed

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in the health area for this type
of notification to be implemented

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in all health units

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and that you have a referral for this woman.

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Good evening! Good evening!

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We are the Bertha Lutz women\'s movement

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and our theme is \"Cycles of Violence\".

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We are here today willing to share,

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from the soul

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and i would like you all

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to introduce yourselves

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My name is Vania Venancio,
I am the creator of the movement

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Bertha Lutz of Women of the Holy Spirit.

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My name is Claudia.
Good afternoon.

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My name is Lucimara.

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I was honored by the
invitation that Vania made

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for me to participate in
the Bertha Lutz movement.

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Being a woman is not easy.

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Being a black woman is much worse.

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And being a black woman of African origin,

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the prejudice is even greater.

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My mother was against my separation,

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she said that, whether beaten
or not, I had to live married.

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It was her creation, right?

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For 17 years. I was called fat

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ugly...

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In the middle of the street,
he cursed at me:

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\"Bastard\", for everyone to hear.

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Since I was 13 years old,
I have suffered violence

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I did not know.

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I was beaten every day
without knowing why.

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Run to where?

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Starving on the street with the kids?

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I was dependent on him

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and I didn\'t go back to my
parents\' house in shame.

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And then I came to live on the street.

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One day, I said: \"Oh my God, I need help\".

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\"I can\'t stand to be hungry anymore.\"

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I live in a house of four macho men,

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and I have to survive.

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My son attacked her,

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the two youths, long married.

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I need my son to no longer be a bully.

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How many times is the woman taken

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to believe that she is to blame

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for the violence suffered?

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I think every woman has to seek

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knowledge within social movements.

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That\'s where we know what our rights are,

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our knowledge.

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-Hey, how are you?
-Hey, Marcia!

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-How long, huh?
-Yeah.

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Hi, my beautiful. How are you?

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-Good.
-How are you?

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-Keeping up, huh?
-Hey, Marcia. How are you?

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Not bad. You can come here, people.

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I\'m going to sit here.

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Yeah, it\'s hot, right?

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Yes

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-So, why did you disappear?
-How are things?

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-Keeping up, huh?
-Yes?

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How have you been since the episode?

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How are you...?

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We\'re trying to take it, get
back up, but it\'s hard, right?

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Sure.

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I have a lot of problem
with my grandson, right?

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-Yes.
-Her son.

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Because of the event, because he
watched everything, right?

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-Yes.
-But...

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The only problem in our town

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is that I can\'t get a psychologist for him.

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Sometimes I isolate myself a lot, you know?

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This is not good.

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In this moment of fragility,

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It\'s always good to be around, right?

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Yes.

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I was thinking I was getting into

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a depression. In fact, nothing is good for me.

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And certain events are still happening,

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that weakens you even more.

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There are times when you think:
\"Oh, I\'ll give up,

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I don\'t even want to live anymore\".

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There are days when I even turn around and say:
\"I don\'t even want to live anymore.

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Why live, if life isn\'t even worth living?\"

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We are women, we understand the pain of a loss,

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we understand the pain of a mother,

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and within the conversation we go

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guiding the needs of this family

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and making the necessary referrals there.

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It is very important for the woman, at this moment,

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not feel alone.

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Because

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This will trigger you, within that period,

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a future depression

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-health problems.
- Deep down, I think I even am,

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- but we never accept, right?
-Yea.

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It is true.

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We say: \"No\", others say:

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\"You have to look for...\",
\"No, girl, I\'m not, no.

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I\'m just sad today, but it will pass.\"

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But then the days go by, more days,
the sadness just goes...

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-Only increasing.
-...just accumulating.

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most women

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get inside a movement today

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because they bring their pains.

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When you see you\'re being a
reference to someone else

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of overcoming, you feel a very big change.

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This is ongoing work,

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It\'s a job that we,

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-Diary, right?
-Diary, of an ant,

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but we can.

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The difficult thing is to start this work.

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But when we start, we don\'t want to stop.

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Lots of data we\'re looking for

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shows that the more women representing

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we women, the more public
policies we will have

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in our favor.

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And we have to break this space of society,

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as Rosilda said,

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it is mandatory for a woman to marry,

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procreate and obey her husband.

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To what extent are we going
to live this in society?

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The Bertha Lutz group comes with this intention.

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Strengthen, unite

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and to give voice to us women

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to always be protagonists of our stories.

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Guys, we\'ll make it.

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Gotta put her on the list there...

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Without the struggle of women,

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there wouldn\'t even be a Maria da Penha Law,

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nor a Convention of Belém do Pará,

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nor a citizenship for the woman.
It wouldn\'t exist.

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Organize things, people.

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The state is obligated to enter this woman\'s house

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through public policies of empowerment.

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This is not just an activity for activists.

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The government must have political responsibility

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and social with all these women,

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informing, creating campaigns,

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reporting channels.

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are also necessary

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support groups for the male aggressor.

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Take care in the aspect
of reformulating that being,

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deconstructing machismo

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and giving that person the
opportunity to improve as well.

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Talking about domestic
violence moves me a lot,

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because I\'m a survivor.

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I thank a warrior,
who was my mother,

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who went through all this too,

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put the man out,

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kicked my dad out of the house.

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When she told me her daughter

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was not created for man to beat,

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was not created for man to mistreat,

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was not created for man to kill,

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I said: \"Mom, I will survive,

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I will not die\".

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bred to love

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bred to take care

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Created for men not to kill

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Eh!

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that\'s us women

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that\'s us women

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that\'s us women

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Eh!

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that\'s us women

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that\'s us women

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that\'s us women

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I am proud to say
that I am a housewife,

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but that I proposed to do a job

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that gives me pleasure.

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And a job that is to share
the struggle with other women,

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show how hard it is to get out of this cycle,

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but that there are ways.

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I would say to the women who pass by

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the situation I went through

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not to stop moving forward,
understand?

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Because there is law, right?

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When I come to the beach,

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I feel a tranquility, a peace,

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because it\'s therapeutic, right?
You hear that noise,

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you sunbathe, which is very nice too.

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And you feel alive,

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that\'s what we women need,
to feel alive.

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Every 4 minutes a woman records to be assaulted.

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66% of the violence victims in 2018 were black.

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At least 3 women are feminicide victims every day.